Timed out

[Sillypoint]

Never seen that before! Not even in decades of park cricket.... How bizarre! Cricket finding new ways of endearing itself to absolutely no one! I know England have been awful but this tournament has dragged itself out

[John (Fingers) Fingleton]

Never seen that before! Not even in decades of park cricket.... How bizarre! Cricket finding new ways of endearing itself to absolutely no one! I know England have been awful but this tournament has dragged itself out

Who/what/where? Context/links would be helpful for those who don't spend every minute of every day watching cricket. Presumably it was something that happened in India?

[Andrew]

Who/what/where? Context/links would be helpful for those who don't spend every minute of every day watching cricket. Presumably it was something that happened in India?


All over the sporting news! Angelo Mathews timed out for taking too long fiddling with his helmet. Sri Lanka v Bangladesh.

[James Mitchell]

Full report from the BBC HERE (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/67333235).

.. and on YouTube:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua63x4C_ba4

[MIDDLE EXILE]

There's no doubt in my mind that the umpires were 100% correct in making their decision. Whether Shakib should have appealed or subsequently withdrawn his appeal when asked is a separate issue, and once more raises the question of the spirit of the game. I think the majority will be of the view that Shakib's action was not within that spirit, but what's the view in this place?

[Douglas Green]

Need for some MCC members to give Shakib a bit of a roasting ?

[Max Sawyer]

LAW 40 TIMED OUT
40.1 Out Timed out
40.1.1 After the fall of a wicket or the retirement of a batsman, the incoming batsman must,
unless Time has been called, be in position to take guard or for the other batsman to
be ready to receive the next ball within 3 minutes of the dismissal or retirement. If this
requirement is not met, the incoming batsman will be out, Timed out.
40.1.2 In the event of an extended delay in which no batsman comes to the wicket, the
umpires shall adopt the procedure of Law 16.3 (Umpires awarding a match). For the
purposes of that Law the start of the action shall be taken as the expiry of the 3
minutes referred to above.
40.2 Bowler does not get credit
The bowler does not get credit for the wicket.

Unfortunately, there is no mention of "wilfully", so correct in law, but wrong in spirit.

However, had he been playing in the past:

Laws of Cricket 1980 Code - Law 31
Law 31 - Timed Out
1. Out Timed Out
An incoming batsman shall be out Timed-Out if he wilfully takes more than two minutes to come in - the two minutes being timed from the moment a wicket falls until the new batsman steps on to the field of play.
If this is not complied with and if the umpire is satisfied that the delay was wilful and if an appeal is made, the new batsman shall be given out by the umpire at the bowler's end.

2. Time to be Added
The time taken by the Umpires to investigate the cause of the delay shall be added at the normal close of play.

Notes
1. Entry in Score-book
The correct entry in the score-book when a batsman is given out under this Law is "timed out", and the bowler does not get credit for the wicket.
2. Batsmen Crossing on the Field of Play
It is an essential duty of the captains to ensure that the ingoing batsman passes the out-going one before the latter leaves the field of play.

[John (Fingers) Fingleton]

All over the sporting news! Angelo Mathews timed out for taking too long fiddling with his helmet. Sri Lanka v Bangladesh.

It might have been ... I haven't been ... so thank you.

[MIDDLE EXILE]

The ICC playing conditions for this tournament state the incoming batter needs to be ready to take guard within TWO minutes rather than three as prescribed in Law 41.1. That time had elapsed before the issue with Mathew's chin strap arose, and before he had taken guard. This as far as I can tell is the first time the law has been applied with the batter actually at the crease but not prepared to receive the delivery, rather than appearing late on the playing area or failing to appear at all within the prescribed time.

[adelaide]

The fourth umpire says that he was over two minutes even before the chin strap broke but others who have seen the footage claim he was under by a few seconds. That can be (and I trust was) easily checked. If he was "legit" before the strap broke then he should not have been given out in my view. To give him out gives the wrong message on player safety, even if he was only facing a spinner.

A (very short) list of players given timed out appeared on the BBC website. It included some corkers such as "player on flight from West Indies" or "overnight not out batsman was marooned by floods", also one who was injured and simply could not make it to the middle in time. Which gets me wondering - did anyone have the timer on Nathan Lyon hobbling out?

I have seen some pretty long gaps, maybe exceeding three minutes. If three wickets go down in one over it is hardly surprising if the last incoming batsman is still struggling with his pads. Never seen an appeal for it though.

[MIDDLE EXILE]

Not exactly a timed-out dismissal, but one that always amuses is the story of Tom Sidwell, playing as a wicketkeeper for Leicestershire against Surrey at The Oval in 1921. Not out overnight on the second day, rather than walk or get the bus with his teammates to the ground on the last day, he decided to get the tube instead, and being unfamiliar with the system managed to get lost on The Northern Line. He eventually turned up after the start and when another batter had replaced him at the crease. He thought he could resume his innings later on, but Surrey captain Percy Fender seeing he was fit and well would have none of it, and after the umpires had consulted with Lord's, poor Sidwell was recorded in the scorebook as 'retired out'.

[John (Fingers) Fingleton]

Ref: Full report from the BBC HERE [#4]:

One of Shakib's comments says it all ...

" ... It is in the Laws. I don't know if it it is right or wrong. But I feel like I was at a war so I had to take a decision to make sure my team wins so whatever I needed to do I had to do it."

"...to make sure my team wins ... whatever" ... and, to think, cricket used to be a sport - played by gentlemen, and ladies. It is now in the hands of highwaymen, the Dick Turpins of the modern day.

Whether the technical analysis confirms that the decision was right (and it probably was) surely just plain unadorned sportsmanship should have seen the appeal withdrawn. Funny thing - don't I recall something similar happening at Lord's just a few months ago?

[Derek Tomlin]

In today’s match, Azmat (AFG) got hit on the helmet and a replacement was summoned. Sad old me! I timed when he was ready to receive the next delivery. It was 2 seconds under 2 minutes. But, what if…. ?

[Sillypoint]

Does it count if the batsman isn't incoming?

[Max Sawyer]

No, unless there is time wasting which, by definition, must be deliberate. And, even if there is, the batsman cannot be dismissed for it, although a string of 5-run penalties may focus minds! It would be simpler, of course, if the umpires added on time, thus making time wasting pointless, but the Laws do not allow that.

41.10 Batter wasting time

41.10.1 It is unfair for a batter to waste time. In normal circumstances, the striker should always be ready to take strike when the bowler is ready to start his/her run-up.

41.10.2 Should either batter waste time by failing to meet this requirement, or in any other way, the following procedure shall be adopted. At the first instance, either before the bowler starts his/her run-up or when the ball becomes dead, as appropriate, the umpire shall
- warn both batters and indicate that this is a first and final warning. This warning shall apply throughout the innings. The umpire shall so inform each incoming batter.
- inform the other umpire of what has occurred. - inform the captain of the fielding side and, as soon as practicable, the captain of the batting side of what has occurred.

41.10.3 If there is any further time wasting by any batter in that innings, the umpire shall, at the appropriate time while the ball is dead

- award 5 Penalty runs to the fielding side.
- inform the other umpire of the reason for this action.
- inform the other batter, the captain of the fielding side and, as soon as practicable, the captain of the batting side of what has occurred.

The umpires together shall report the occurrence as soon as possible after the match to the Executive of the offending side and to any Governing Body responsible for the match, who shall take such action as is considered appropriate against the captain, any other individuals concerned and, if appropriate, the team.